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Synarchist Founder of "Propaganda 2" Freemasonic Lodge Surfaces in Interview
From 1981 onward, Executive Intelligence Review served as the publication of record informing its international readership of the networks involved in the Synarchist secret organization, Propaganda 2, a Freemasonic lodge headed by Licio Gelli. Among the "people above suspicion" involved in P-2 were former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, and former NATO Secretary General, and Secretary of State, Alexander Haig. Through P-2 networks, terrorist operations of the Nazi-Communist International were able to flourish and escape from prosecution. For a historical perspective on this subject, reader are referred to the Sept. 5, 2003 issue of EIR, which published Lyndon LaRouche's article, "Religion and National Security: The Threat from Terrorist Cults," a Presidential policy study issued by the LaRouche in 2004 campaign committee.
On Sept. 28, in the Italian publication, La Repubblica, Licio Gelli, the founder of the secret Freemasonic lodge, Propaganda-2, surfaced to say that he continues to be a "puppet-master" in Italy. The interview, titled in Italian, "Avevo scritto tutto 30 anni fa," ("I wrote everything 30 years ago") was conducted by reporter Concita de Gregorio.
In the interview, Gelli, whose P-2 Lodge was uncovered and disbanded in 1981, sends messages at several levels: to the government, to blackmail it; to the opposition, to wave a red flag in front of it and ignite a left-right scenario; and to insiders, to convey that the Synarchist project which has been uncovered by EIR founder, and U.S. Democratic Party presidential pre-candidate, Lyndon LaRouche is alive and aggressive.
Gelli is now 84 years old, but he still receives people as in the good old days, when he was the "puppet-master" of Italian politics, as he defined himself in an historic interview, given before the existence of his secret lodge became known.
The P-2 had 962 known members, among them numerous politicians, all the heads of the armed services and intelligence agencies, and major business leaders. Among the politicians were Silvio Berlusconinow Prime Ministerand the new coordinator of his party, Fabrizio Cicchitto. The P-2 had also many non-Italian members, including the Argentine junta, that led the country in the Malvinas war.
Another prominent P-2 member and operative identified in the early 1980's was Michael Ledeen, today with the neo-cons' American Enterprise Institute. During the 1978 kidnapping of former Prime Minister Aldo Moro, the crisis management committee established by Interior Minister Francesco Cossiga was entirely composed of P-2 members, including Ledeen.
Later, Gelli and P-2 intelligence officials were caught protecting the right-wing terrorists involved in the 1980 Bologna train station bombing, which killed 82 people.
Prosecutors also discovered a plan drafted by Gelli for Italy's transformation, entitled "Plan for Democratic Rebirth." Gelli's blueprint is the subject of the interview. Gelli told his interviewer: "I look at the country, read the newspapers and think: Look, everything is being implemented, little by little, piece after piece. Maybe, I should ask for authorship rights. Justice, television, police reforms: I wrote everything 30 years ago."
Italian Synarchist Boasts of His Fascist Ties
In the same La Repubblica interview of Sept. 28, P-2 founder Licio Gelli recounts his friendship with the founder of the neo-Fascist party, the Italian Social Movement (MSI), Giorgio Almirante: "We were good friends, we were in [Mussolini's] Social Republic together. I financed him two times: The second time for Fini [currently deputy prime minister]. He was a real promising guy, Fini. In the last couple of years, he's sort of faded."
On Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi: "He is an above-average man. I remember well, already at the time of our first meetings, that he had this characteristic: He knew how to implement his projects. A man of action. We need those people in Italyno talk, action." Do you still speak to Berlusconi? "What an impertinent question," and then, completed his response, that his most recent book was published by the company that publishes only three authors: Gelli, the Pope, and Berlusconi.
He continued, "Berlusconi was right in cleaning up his party recently, to put it in the hands of a man like [Fabrizio] Cicchitto. I know Cicchitto well: He is good, competent." But, said Repubblica, the real coordinator of the party is Enrico Bondi. "Yes, sure. I think that Bondi is competent too. He is a product of party discipline." Yes, from the Communist Party. "Doesn't matter. What matters is discipline and the respect for hierarchy."
There are several puppet-masters around today, asks the interviewer. Gelli replies, "No, there is only one puppet-master; there cannot be more than one." And who is he? "Now? This is a very modest, mediocre political class. They are all blackmailable." Everybody? Even [Lega Nord leader Umberto] Bossi? "Bossi created his fortress with Padania [Northern Italy] and has elected 80 members to Parliament. He was clever. But he had a lot of debts.... To recover the country you need money..."
Gelli returns to the subject, that what Italy needs is his old project. Repubblica asked: Were the 962 P-2 members too few to make it successful? "No, they are even too many. You need far fewer people." But none of them repented, Gelli claimed. "Look, I do not owe anything to anybody. But all of those whom I met, owe something to me. There are some rebels, whose lives I have saved, and, still today, when they meet me, they embrace me." Rebels? "Yes, those rebels, who were on the mountains, during the war. I was an officer between the Italian and the German command, and I saved a lot of them." You are talking about partisans. "Call them whatever you like, we were on opposite sides, but when you are in front of a friend, the uniform doesn't count for anything. Friendship and loyalty to a friend come before anything else."
Apropos of friendship, the reporter tells Gelli that former Italian President Francesco Cossiga said he is a friend of yours, and told me, "Ask Gelli what he thought about Aldo Moro," (the Italian Prime Minister who was kidnapped and killed by Italian terrorists).
Gelli's response: "I went to Moro to present my credentials, when I was the consul for a South American country. He told me: You come in the name of a dictatorship, but Italy is a democracy. He explained to me that democracy is like a bean soup: To cook them, you must be very patient. I answered: Take care that your beans are not left without water, Signor Ministro."
What would you have done, had you had the opportunity to save Moro? "I would have done nothing. He had been a Fascist in his youth, like Fanfani, by the way, but afterwards he became too different from us." Gelli ends the interview, telling the interviewer to greet Cossiga for him.
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